[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":-1},["ShallowReactive",2],{"page-data--\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0-{\"page\":8}":3,"episodes-by-show-7186-8":417},{"type":4,"id":5,"alias":6,"title":7,"visual":8,"description":12,"category":13,"presenters":19,"radios":22,"og_description":12,"og_title":7,"meta_title":7,"meta_description":12,"blocks":41,"episodes":47,"pager":412},"show","7186","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0","Carrefours bibliques",{"url":9,"alt":10,"url_carre":11,"alt_carre":11},"https:\u002F\u002Fassets-prep.radiorcf.com\u002Fstyles\u002F{style_name}\u002Fassets\u002F2021-12\u002Fcarrefour.png.webp","Carrefours bibliques \u002F RCF","","\u003Cp>Aux côtés de Danièle qui fait la lecture de quelques extraits de la retranscription des textes originaux en hébreux ou grec, André Scheer les commente en osant les bizarreries ou les extravagances des récits, souvent supprimées dans les traductions courantes pour que le texte paraisse plus facile. Ensemble, ils s'attachent à repérer et à souligner ces invraisemblances, en utilisant le bon sens qui était la base de la recherche des destinataires de ces récits.\u003C\u002Fp>\r\n\r\n\u003Cp>L’émission met l’auditeur en face de l'expérience des auteurs de la Bible et l’amène à (re)découvrir le sens des Écritures qui s'ouvre alors à une liberté et à une responsabilité d'une modernité surprenante.\u003C\u002Fp>\r\n\r\n\u003Cp>Vous pouvez poser vos questions ou réagir à cette émission d'André Scheer sur la nouvelle page \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.facebook.com\u002Fpages\u002FCarrefours-Bibliques\u002F689316724421089?fref=ts\" target=\"_blank\">facebook \"Carrefours bibliques\"\u003C\u002Fa>.\u003C\u002Fp>\r\n",{"id":14,"type":15,"name":16,"alias":17,"description":18},"2","category","Vie Spirituelle","\u002Fvie-spirituelle","\u003Cp>\r\n\u003Cstyle type=\"text\u002Fcss\">\u003C!--td {border: 1px solid #cccccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}-->\r\n\u003C\u002Fstyle>\r\nRedécouvrez les fondamentaux de la foi chrétienne, les grands courants de pensée qui ont traversé l'histoire de l'Église, le sens des fêtes chrétiennes, la vie des saints, ...\u003C\u002Fp>\r\n",[20,21],"André Scheer","Danièle Scheer",[23,34],{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":30,"channelId":33},"34359","RCF Lorraine Meuse","RCF55","Lorraine Meuse","\u002F\u002Frcf.streamakaci.com\u002Frcf54.mp3","\u002Florraine-meuse",{"id":31,"name":32},"34173","Grand Est",null,{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":40,"channelId":33},"34336","RCF Lorraine Nancy","RCF54","Lorraine Nancy","\u002Florraine-nancy",{"id":31,"name":32},[42],{"type":43,"description":18,"layout":44,"show_more":17,"radio":45,"articles":46,"category":14},"thematic_horizontal_block","horizontal","9",[],[48,71,90,109,128,147,166,186,205,224,243,261,278,295,312,329,346,363,380,396],{"type":49,"id":50,"title":51,"alias":52,"digas":53,"published":54,"datetime":55,"description":56,"presenters":57,"visual":59,"show":60,"duration":62,"radios":63,"audio_file":68,"rolls":69},"episode","155411","Vivre le règne de Dieu (2)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=155411","NC-4792","7 septembre 2021","2021-09-07T00:00:00+02:00","Un figuier qui ne produit pas de fruit et que le maître va se décider à faire abattre : une belle image de la situation religieuse et des institutions juives de l'époque de Jésus de Nazareth. Mais aussi un langage tellement clair qu'il ne va pouvoir que conduire Jésus à une fin tragique. En termes d'histoire humaine.",[58],"Antoine Honnorat",{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"CARREBIB","1491624",[64,66],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":65,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":67,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fdb79b6222da57ab926161be19b9b9a79b223b029f3ade991889478d4e267dff0.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},false,{"type":49,"id":72,"title":73,"alias":74,"digas":75,"published":76,"datetime":77,"description":78,"presenters":79,"visual":80,"show":81,"duration":82,"radios":83,"audio_file":88,"rolls":89},"155413","Vivre le règne de Dieu (1)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=155413","NC-4790","31 août 2021","2021-08-31T00:00:00+02:00","Jésus veut amener les disciples et les foules auxquelles il s'adresse à changer de façon de penser.... à changer de façon de penser pour ne pas disparaître, dit-il précisément. Mais qu'entend-t-il justement par cela ?",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1484424",[84,86],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":85,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":87,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F151e67505a14dcb8d2408caac306b6129334be05c28d951f7813e755cfa2ebe7.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":91,"title":92,"alias":93,"digas":94,"published":95,"datetime":96,"description":97,"presenters":98,"visual":99,"show":100,"duration":101,"radios":102,"audio_file":107,"rolls":108},"126514","Se préparer (8) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126514","NCC-15579","29 août 2021","2021-08-29T00:00:00+02:00","La fin de la controverse avec les Scribes et les Pharisiens est récapitulée en montrant le panorama complet du désastre construit par les élites juives au temps de Jésus. Celui-ci rappelle que la faute de ces élites est originelle ; elle est liée à l'utilisation du religieux pour obtenir du pouvoir, de l'honorabilité au lieu d'être au service de la lumière pour les frères. Depuis Caïn jusqu'à Zacharie, c'est à dire dans toute l'étendue de la Bible juive, on retrouve ce désastre causé par la recherche de puissance des élites, par leur collaboration avec les pouvoirs pour gagner cette honorabilité dont elles ne peuvent pas se passer !",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1630800",[103,105],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":104,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":106,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fc00bd30346a143e7439c43cae8e304c040971d0c069aba4aebe34c6806223ff6.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":110,"title":111,"alias":112,"digas":113,"published":114,"datetime":115,"description":116,"presenters":117,"visual":118,"show":119,"duration":120,"radios":121,"audio_file":126,"rolls":127},"126515","Se préparer (7) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126515","NCC-15578","22 août 2021","2021-08-22T00:00:00+02:00","Une réception qui commence bien mal que celle du Pharisien à l'attention du maître de Nazareth ! Mais peut-être s'agit-il là d'une parabole qui à la fois vise les pharisiens de la fin du 1er siècle qui s'opposent, 50 ans après la mort de Jésus, aux disciples qui vont devenir les premiers chrétiens, et en même temps vise aussi les disciples eux-mêmes qui tendent à reproduire les attitudes que le maître critiquaient de son vivant.\nC'est bien l'intérieur qu'il nous invite à offrir ! Et non à pratiquer une justice de comportement dans la pratique des rites.",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1620024",[122,124],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":123,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":125,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F742ed7b580136080a79fcb9c0bf00cb809a0564df9886ac7c0e98487d6ebd7e8.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":129,"title":130,"alias":131,"digas":132,"published":133,"datetime":134,"description":135,"presenters":136,"visual":137,"show":138,"duration":139,"radios":140,"audio_file":145,"rolls":146},"126518","Se préparer (6) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126518","NCC-15577","15 août 2021","2021-08-15T00:00:00+02:00","\"Heureux les seins que tu as tétés !\"... Pour Jésus, l'ouverture à la vraie vie n'est pas liée aux liens sacrés de la famille, mais à la capacité d'écoute de chacun à la vie qu'il rencontre. Cette ouverture n'est pas non plus liée au seul respect des traditions religieuses ; elle est mise en marche, refus de savoir par avance, réflexions sur le sens du vivant. Et si les autorités juives de Jérusalem n'en veulent pas, ce sont les enfants juifs de la diaspora qui vont s'ouvrir à cette façon de voir si nouvelle. Diaspora qui va devenirt la base de l'aventure du christianisme pendant ses deux premiers siècles au moins...",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1634184",[141,143],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":142,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":144,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fd0096c0c1905dadcf08081b2c183a97752d06fecf5e7c94ac811cc30a7e985f8.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":148,"title":149,"alias":150,"digas":151,"published":152,"datetime":153,"description":154,"presenters":155,"visual":156,"show":157,"duration":158,"radios":159,"audio_file":164,"rolls":165},"126520","Se préparer (5) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126520","NCC-15576","8 août 2021","2021-08-08T00:00:00+02:00","La parabole du puissant qui garde sa demeure, est une évocation que Jésus fait de l'avenir du judaïsme de son temps. Comme s'il leur disait : \"Si vous pensez cadenasser le religieux par des rites, par du prescriptif, vous allez voir qu'une autre façon de penser et de vivre la thorah va balayer tout cela.\"\nDans cette vie du judaïsme, il n'y a pas de retour en arrière possible ; ne soyez pas comme les mauvais bergers de Jérémie, ou comme les élites corrompues qu'évoque Isaïe au début de son livre...",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1582032",[160,162],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":161,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":163,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fed19ea9fd66839809cac755cef98a8025c7e5998b97f61a38f7f2cbea532db41.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":167,"title":168,"alias":169,"digas":170,"published":171,"datetime":172,"description":173,"presenters":174,"visual":176,"show":177,"duration":178,"radios":179,"audio_file":184,"rolls":185},"126523","Se préparer (4) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126523","NCC-14386","1 août 2021","2021-08-01T00:00:00+02:00","Jésus qui vient de remettre dans la vie un homme dont la parole était paralysée est accusé de chasser les démons par Belzébul !\nMais quel est donc le sens de la controverse rabbinique qui suit ?",[175],"Enguerran Meyer",{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1622016",[180,182],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":181,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":183,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F3e7e284f595b2227411b6309596085f437e32be4f486cdc58d9c54f69679968c.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":187,"title":188,"alias":189,"digas":190,"published":191,"datetime":192,"description":193,"presenters":194,"visual":195,"show":196,"duration":197,"radios":198,"audio_file":203,"rolls":204},"126522","Se préparer (3) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126522","NCC-14383","25 juillet 2021","2021-07-25T00:00:00+02:00","\"Demandez et l'on va vous donner\"... oui, mais nous donner quoi ? Ce que l'on a demandé ? Rien n'est moins certain ! \n\"Cherchez et vous allez trouver\"... oui, mais on va trouver ce qu'on cherche ? Là non plus le texte de l'Évangile de Luc ne nous confirme pas l'équivalence entre ce qui est demandé, cherché, et ce qui va être obtenu ! Elle est surprenante la sagesse que Jésus veut communiquer à ses disciples...\nL'essentiel de ce qu'il enseigne c'est que, ce que nous allons trouver, obtenir, ouvrir... sera un don de la vie, un don de Dieu, quelque chose de bon pour nous !",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1481544",[199,201],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":200,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":202,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F3369bc694002e019d93fb733b8ccbe824cde931dc581f3814a3052d2812cc599.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":206,"title":207,"alias":208,"digas":209,"published":210,"datetime":211,"description":212,"presenters":213,"visual":214,"show":215,"duration":216,"radios":217,"audio_file":222,"rolls":223},"126524","Se préparer (2) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126524","NCC-14384","18 juillet 2021","2021-07-18T00:00:00+02:00","Une parabole bizarre, dans laquelle un homme dérange son ami au milieu de la nuit pour avoir trois pains pour ses invités surprise... Mais, au-delà des invraissemblances qui sont là pour nous faire chercher le sens du récit, celui-ci ne résonne-t-il pas d'une façon nouvelle une fois qu'on le met en parallèle avec les textes de l'Éxode et de Ruth ? Dans lesquels il se passe quelque chose d'important au milieu de la nuit, précisement...",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1653096",[218,220],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":219,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":221,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F5e749d9622bd48572548774cbaf6c12ffb4cd877e6969532c39f75e732aa5c67.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":225,"title":226,"alias":227,"digas":228,"published":229,"datetime":230,"description":231,"presenters":232,"visual":233,"show":234,"duration":235,"radios":236,"audio_file":241,"rolls":242},"126527","Se préparer (1) (rediffusion)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=126527","NCC-14379","11 juillet 2021","2021-07-11T00:00:00+02:00","Le \"Notre Père\" dans l'Évangile de Luc est la version la plus ancienne de la prière de Jésus. Mais comment se fait-il qu'elle soit si éloignée de la traduction habituelle  ? Éléments de réponses à partir des réflexions d'André Scheer dans cette nouvelle série d'émissions Carrefours bibliques, toujours sur les pas de Luc !",[58],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1582368",[237,239],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":238,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":240,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002F57dc850510320f7336ee0a55be5eea7f97822db2c1f88127cc9ba039271d9c1d.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":244,"title":245,"alias":246,"published":247,"datetime":248,"description":249,"presenters":250,"visual":251,"show":252,"duration":253,"radios":254,"audio_file":259,"rolls":260},"25554","Un feu sur la terre (4)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=25554","8 juin 2021","2021-06-08T20:00:00+02:00","Un passage de l'enseignement de Jésus, où il parle de la hantise des hommes de son temps de ne pas trouver de quoi les faire vivre dans le judaïsme traditionnel, de n'y pas trouver le pain qui nourrit et le vêtement qui habille le juif croyant.\nLe Dieu d'Israël pourvoit à tout cela ; la vie est plus grande que les formes religieuses que l'on a mises sur elles, surtout quand on cherche, par elles, à profiter de la situation faites aux élites…",[20,21],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},"1500000",[255,257],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":256,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":258,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fa242f8f9d1b4cad919ae3d2993899d15a4447ee1bbd2d73deacff87c255b2e55.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":262,"title":263,"alias":264,"published":265,"datetime":266,"description":267,"presenters":268,"visual":269,"show":270,"duration":253,"radios":271,"audio_file":276,"rolls":277},"25553","Un feu sur la terre (3)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=25553","1 juin 2021","2021-06-01T20:00:00+02:00","Ici, Jésus refuse d'être juge entre deux hommes, à propos d'une histoire d'héritage. Le passage nous fait penser à Moïse qui veut sauver ses frères et échoue alors qu'il parvient à faire boire les troupeaux des filles de Jéthro en se posant en protecteur. Une façon de montrer que Jésus ne se voit pas comme un sauveur ou un juge, quelqu'un qu'une autorité aurait institué officiellement, mais comme quelqu'un qui accompagne pour faire boire, pour faire naître…",[20,21],{"alt":10,"url":9,"url_carre":11,"copyright":11},{"id":5,"title":7,"alias":6,"code_emission":61},[272,274],{"id":35,"name":36,"code":37,"shortname":38,"liveURL":28,"alias":39,"region":273,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},{"id":24,"name":25,"code":26,"shortname":27,"liveURL":28,"alias":29,"region":275,"channelId":33},{"id":31,"name":32},"https:\u002F\u002Faudio.audiomeans.fr\u002Fguid\u002F{source_code}\u002F\u002Fe19726bece07944b580b8afc90bce00e4f801dae7674a011409a733a8c7d0d79.mp3",{"podcast_not_roll":70},{"type":49,"id":279,"title":280,"alias":281,"published":282,"datetime":283,"description":284,"presenters":285,"visual":286,"show":287,"duration":253,"radios":288,"audio_file":293,"rolls":294},"25552","Un feu sur la terre (2)","\u002Fvie-spirituelle\u002Fcarrefours-bibliques-0?episode=25552","25 mai 2021","2021-05-25T20:00:00+02:00","Dans ce passage tardif, qui évoque les conflits entre la synagogue unifiée après la chute du temple, l'Évangile met dans la bouche de Jésus des propos indispensables pour consolider l'autorité nouvelle des évêques sur les premières Églises. Propos si différents de ceux du maître de Nazareth ; ils viennent jusqu'à exiger des disciples de Jésus qu'ils s'en remettent à l'institution et à ses autorités, y compris pour leur défense devant les tribunaux. 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